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Hervey DE KEITH Marischal of Scotland [7539]
(Abt 1187-Bef 1250)
Margaret DE DOUGLAS [7540]
(1178-1260)
John DE KEITH Marischal of Scotland [7529]
(Abt 1212-1270)

 

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Spouses/Children:
1. Margaret COMYN [7530]

John DE KEITH Marischal of Scotland [7529] 1774

  • Born: Abt 1212, Humbie, East Lothian, Scotland 1774
  • Marriage (1): Margaret COMYN [7530] before 1236 in , , , Scotland 1777
  • Died: 1270, Humbie, East Lothian, Scotland about age 58 1774
  • Buried: 1270, Humbie, Haddingtonshire, Scotland 1774

   FamilySearch ID: GXJ4-XJ2.

  General Notes:

Biography

John (Keith) de Keith is a member of Clan Keith.
•Children: Adam De Keith, Robert De Keith, Nn De Keith

Sir John de Keith, who, about the date mentioned was in possession of both the lands and office. Between the years 1198 and 1234, his name appears as a witness to a grant to the Hospital of Soltre. He confirmed to the monks of Kelso the grants of his predecessors, with the addition of some lands within the manor of Keith, and about the year 1250, he confirmed to the Hospital of Soltre some lands in the district of Johnston, near Keith.

He died before the year 1270. He is said to have married Margaret Comyn, who may have been the daughter of William, Earl of Buchan.

In the period of transition from legend to records there is usually some confusion and inconsistency. Accordingly, the lists of the names of the early Great Marischals of Scotland show some discrepancies.

Hervey de Keith was Great Marischal of Scotland in the reign of William the Lion. He witnessed several charters between 1189 and 1195 and died before 1196. He was succeeded by his grandson, Sir Philip Keith, Great Marischal of Scotland. He died before 1219 and was succeeded by his son, Sir Hervey. On the 15th of July 1220, he officiated as Marischal of Scotland at the marriage of Alexander II. to Joan of England, at York.

He died before 1250, and was succeeded by his son, Sir John Keith, Great Marischal of Scotland. As Marshal, he witnessed a charter of Alexander II. He married a daughter of Alexander, Earl of Buchan, and had issue. He was succeeded by his son, Sir Robert, Great Marischal of Scotland. Before the end of the thirteenth century, the Keiths had become numerous in Scotland, and a discrepancy in the family succession appears.

But in 1294, Sir Robert Keith, Great Marischal of Scotland, received a charter from King John. He was a man of great energy and ability and took an active part in the affairs of the nation and the War of Independence. He joined Robert Bruce and fought in the battle of Inverurie, in which he greatly distinguished himself. Shortly after this event, he received a grant of lands in Aberdeen-shire, including the seat called "Hall Forest" in the parish of Kintore.

Occupation: Marischal of Scotland

Note: Some genealogies claim that Sir John Keith, below, was son of Hervey de Keith, son of Phillip de Keith and Eda Lorens. Others claim he was son of Sir Robert Keith and Jean Ogilvie. The following account deals only with generally accepted lines.
Sources
? The Scots Peerage VI:28-29
? Unknown author, John de Keith, Marischal of Scotland (1212 - 1270), http://www.geni.com/people/Sir-John-de-Keith-Marischal-of-Scotland/6000000000424798743
? John Mackintosh, LL.D., ABERDEEN, April, 1898. J. M., Historic Earls and Earldoms of Scotland Chapter V - Keiths, Great Marischals of Scotland, and Earl Marischals Section I, http://www.electricscotland.com/webclans/earldoms/chapter5s1.htm
http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~legends/keith.html
•http://www.electricscotland.com/webclans/earldoms/chapter5s1.htm •http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=aet%2Dt&id=I17683




Sir John de Keith, Marischal of Scotland (died c.1270), was an Scottish noble. He was a son of Hervey de Keith (died 1249) and Margaret de Douglas.

Between the years 1198 and 1234 his name appears as witness to a grant to the Hospital of Soltre. He confirmed to the monks of Kelso the grants of his predecessors, with the addition of some lands within the manor of Keith, and about the year 1250 he confirmed to the Hospital of Soltre some lands in the district of Johnston, near Keith.

John inherited the position of Marischal of Scotland in 1249, which was charged with the safety of the king's person within Parliament and was also custodian of the royal regalia.

Marriage and issue
John married Margaret Cumyn, daughter of William Comyn, Lord of Badenoch, Justiciar of Scotland and Marjory, Countess of Buchan, they are known to have had the following issue:

1.) William de Kieth (died c.1290), married Barbara de Seton, had issue.

2.) Robert de Keith (died 1343), married Joanna Galbraith, had issue.

3.) Edward de Keith

4.) Richard de Keith

5.) Philip de Keith, Rector of Biggar.

  Noted events in his life were:

1. He worked as a Kings Marischal on an unknown date. 1778


John married Margaret COMYN [7530] [MRIN: 5676], daughter of William COMYN Lord of Badenoch and Earl Of Buchan [7541] and Countess Margaret BUCHAN [7542], before 1236 in , , , Scotland.1777 (Margaret COMYN [7530] was born about 1218 in Morayshire, Scotland,1774 died in 1274 in Humbie, Haddingtonshire, Scotland 1774 and was buried in 1274 in Humbie, Haddingtonshire, Scotland 1774.)